An diofar eadar na mùthaidhean a rinneadh air "Prepositions made easier"

Mùthadh on 15:46, 18 dhen t-Sultain 2013

Tricky one. They are very old words/forms. It's been a long time since they were first formed and they involve things, like the Old Irish accusative, which have been dead for a long time. So, there's no foolproof way of giving you a simple guide which tells you how you can just form them on the spot.

However, there are a few pointers that we can give you.

Broadly speaking, you can group modern Gaelic preposition into 5 categories - Regular, Mostly Regular, 3rd Person S, Labial in Root, and Decidedly Weird. We have grouped them this way because this allows you to learn them in groups and perhaps memorise some of rules. We'll also explain their history further down and historical explanation may also help some of you to understand these pesky little buggers.

Regular

Root	Analysed preposition	Full form
ag-	-(a)m	agam
ag-	-(a)d	agad
ag-	slenderisation & -e	aige
ag-	slenderisation, hardening & -e	aice
ag-	-(a)inn	againn
ag-	-(a)ibh	agaibh
ag-	harden & -a	aca

Following the same pattern:

Root	Analysed preposition	Full form
thug-	-(a)m	(th)ugam
thug-	-(a)d	(th)ugad
thug-	slenderisation & -e	(th)uige
thug-	slenderisation, hardening & -e	(th)uice
thug-	-(a)inn	(th)ugainn
thug-	-(a)ibh	(th)ugaibh
thug-	harden & -a	(th)uca

The variants ugam, ugad... and chugam, chugad... follow the same pattern.

Mostly Regular

Root	Analysed preposition	Full form
ann-	-(a)m	annam
ann-	-(a)d/t	annad
ann-	same as root	ann
ann-	slenderise, -(t)e	innte
ann-	-(a)inn	annainn
ann-	-(a)ibh	annaibh
ann-	-(t)a	annta

Following the same pattern:

Root	Analysed preposition	Full form
ann- dhì-	-(a)m	orm dhìom
ann- dhì-	-(a)d/t	ort dhìot
ann- dhì-	same as root	air (irr.) dheth
ann- dhì-	slenderise, -(t)e	oirre (irr.) dhith
ann- dhì-	-(a)inn	oirnn dhinn
ann- dhì-	-(a)ibh	oirbh dhibh
ann- dhì-	-(t)a	orra dhiubh

The most striking feature of this group is that it uses the root form for the 3rd person singular masculine. The other bit to watch out for with air is that the root slenderises in the plural. And we get innte because the root used to be int-. But more of the history later.

The prepositions in brackets are other/older spellings of these that are still kicking about. They fit the paradigm much better, although GOC abolished them, so non-nonchalantly. <sigh>

3rd Person s

The next group is also fairly regular, but different because the 3rd person singular masculine adds an -s to the root:

Root	Analysed preposition	Full form
as- le- ri- thar-	-(a)m	asam leam rium tharam
as- le- ri- thar-	-(a)d/t	asad leat riut tharad
as- le- ri- thair-	ROOT + [ʃ]	(irr.) ás leis ris thairis
as- le- ri- thair-	slenderise, -the/-te	aiste (irr.) leatha (cf Irish léi) rithe thairte
as- le- ri- thar-	-(a)inn	asainn leinn r(u)inn tharainn
as- le- ri- thar-	-(a)ibh	asaibh leibh r(u)ibh tharaibh
as- le- ri- thar-	-(t)a/-(th)a	asta leotha riutha tharta

As you can see, this bunch is mostly regular except for ás, which has [s] instead of the expected [ʃ] and the 3rd person singular feminine leatha which is a bit weird. The (older) Irish form léithe fits the paradigm perfectly though, not that that is any consolation to us.

Again, i gets inserted so the caol ri caol rule isn't broken.

Labial in Root

Almost there. There next group we decided to call Labial in Root because they - surprise - all contain a labial (b, m, f):

Root	Analysed preposition	Full form
tromh- romh- ua- fodh- um-	-(a)m	tromham romham uam fodham umam
tromh- romh- ua- fodh- um-	-(a)d/t	tromhad romhad uat fodhad umad
troimh- romh- ua- fodh- um-	slenderise + e	troimhe roimhe (irr.) uaithe (irr.) fodha uime
troimh- romh- ua- fodh- um-	slenderise, -pe	troimhpe roimhpe uaipe foidhpe uimpe
tromh- romh- ua- fodh- um-	-(a)inn	tromhainn romhainn uainn fodhainn umainn
tromh- romh- ua- fodh- um-	-(a)ibh	tromhaibh romhaibh uaibh fodhaibh umaibh
tromh- romh- ua- fodh- um-	-pa	tromhpa romhpa uapa fodhpa umpa

Note: bho follows the same pattern, just with bh- at the beginning i.e. buam, bhuat etc

Nothing much to add about this group really. As you'll see later on, that weird -p- isn't part of the ending but rather a very old part of the root that crops up, now and then.

Decidedly weird

To finish this off first we need to take a look at the Decidedly Weird Group - luckily there's only one preposition - unfortunately it's also perhaps the most common one:

Root	Analysed preposition	Full form
dh-	-omh	dhomh
dh-	-ut	dhut
dh-	-a	dha
dh-	-i	dhi
dh-	-uinn	dhuinn
dh-	-uibh	dhuibh
dh-	-aibh	dhaibh

As you can see, compared to the other ones, do is really weird. Historical notes aside, unfortunately, there isn't much else we can add that might help you, except a general note perhaps. For adults, learning a new language invariably involves learning stuff by heart. If you were doing Basque you'd have to cope with over 12.000 forms for the two verbs 'to be' and 'to have' alone. So, learning the few irregular verbs of Gaelic and these few prepositions really isn't that bad. It's worthwhile putting in the effort because they are REALLY common. Having to pause before coming out with the correct conjugated preposition does mark you as a learner!

On to the history then for the curious minds ...

Roimhearan

᚛ á - aig - air - ann an - de ⁊ a - do ⁊ a - eadar - fo - gu - le - mu - o ⁊ bho - os ⁊ fos - ri - tro - thar ᚜

@@ Loidhne 95: / Loidhne 95: @@
 | ann-<br/>dhì-|| -(t)a || orra<br/>dhiubh
 |-
 |}
 The most striking feature of this group is that it uses the root form for the 3rd person singular masculine. The other bit to watch out for with air is that the root slenderises in the plural. And we get innte because the root used to be int-. But more of the history later.
@@ Loidhne 103: / Loidhne 103: @@
 ==3rd Person s==
 The next group is also fairly regular, but different because the 3rd person singular masculine adds an -s to the root:
 {| style="width: 30%;" border="0"
@@ Loidhne 125: / Loidhne 123: @@
 | as-<br/>le-<br/>ri-<br/>thar- || -(t)a/-(th)a || asta<br/>leotha<br/>riutha<br/>tharta
 |-
 |}
 As you can see, this bunch is mostly regular except for ás, which has [s] instead of the expected [ʃ] and the 3rd person singular feminine leatha which is a bit weird. The (older) Irish form léithe fits the paradigm perfectly though, not that that is any consolation to us.
@@ Loidhne 154: / Loidhne 151: @@
 | tromh-<br/>romh-<br/>ua-<br/>fodh-<br/>um- || -pa || tromhpa<br/>romhpa<br/>uapa<br/>fodhpa<br/>umpa
 |-
 |}
 Note: bho follows the same pattern, just with bh- at the beginning i.e. buam, bhuat etc
-Nothing much to add about this group really.  As you'll see later on, that weird -p- isn't part of the ending but rather a very old part of the root that crops up, now and then. But, let's finish this off first and take a look at the Decidedly Weird Group - luckily there's only one preposition - unfortunately it's also perhaps the most common one:
+Nothing much to add about this group really.  As you'll see later on, that weird -p- isn't part of the ending but rather a very old part of the root that crops up, now and then.
 ==Decidedly weird==
+To finish this off first we need to take a look at the Decidedly Weird Group - luckily there's only one preposition - unfortunately it's also perhaps the most common one:
+{| style="width: 30%;" border="0"
+! align="left" | Root
+! align="left" | Analysed preposition
+! align="left" | Full form
+|-
+| dh- || -omh || dhomh
+|-
+| dh- || -ut || dhut
+|-
+| dh- || -a || dha
+|-
+| dh- || -i || dhi
+|-
+| dh- || -uinn || dhuinn
+|-
+| dh- || -uibh || dhuibh
+|-
+| dh- || -aibh || dhaibh
+|-
+|}
+As you can see, compared to the other ones, do is really weird. Historical notes aside, unfortunately, there isn't much else we can add that might help you, except a general note perhaps. For adults, learning a new language invariably involves learning stuff by heart.  If you were doing Basque you'd have to cope with over 12.000 forms for the two verbs 'to be' and 'to have' alone. So, learning the few irregular verbs of Gaelic and these few prepositions really isn't that bad.  It's worthwhile putting in the effort because they are REALLY common. Having to pause before coming out with the correct conjugated preposition does mark you as a learner!
-WEIRD
-	ROOT: dh(u)- 	do
--mh
--t
--a
--i
--inn
--ibh
--aibh
-dh-omh
-dhu-t
-dh-a
-dh-i
-dhu-inn
-dhu-ibh
-dh-aibh
-dhomh
-dhut
-dha
-dhi
-dhuinn
-dhuibh
-dhaibh
-As you can see, compared to the other ones, do is really weird.   Historical notes aside, unfortunately, there isn't much else we can add that might help you, except a general note perhaps. For adults, learning a new language invariably involves learning stuff by heart.  If you were doing Basque you'd have to cope with over 12.000 forms for the two verbs 'to be' and 'to have' alone. So, learning the few irregular verbs of Gaelic and these few prepositions really isn't that bad.  It's worthwhile putting in the effort because they are REALLY common. Having to pause before coming out with the correct conjugated preposition does mark you as a learner!
 On to the history then for the curious minds ...
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