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</table>Akerbeltzhttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=2207&oldid=prevAkerbeltz 13:11, 26 dhen t-Sultain 20132013-09-26T13:11:17Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. But first of all, what are we on about this time?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. But first of all, what are we on about this time?</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on your exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least, not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. This is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days. So, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask, in Gaelic, for planning permission for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at <span style="color: #008000;">Comhairle nan Eilean Siar</span>'s "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">an </del><span style="color: #008000;">taigh ùr agaibh</span> as [aN hɤj uːr agu].</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on your exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least, not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. This is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days. So, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask, in Gaelic, for planning permission for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at <span style="color: #008000;">Comhairle nan Eilean Siar</span>'s "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about <span style="color: #008000;"><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">an </ins>taigh ùr agaibh</span> as [aN hɤj uːr agu].</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <span style="color: #000080;">-n</span> indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <span style="color: #6600CC;">très bon</span> is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <span style="color: #6600CC;">bon appetit it</span> suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <span style="color: #6600CC;">-ten</span> which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<span style="color: #6600CC;">Enten</span> meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <span style="color: #000080;">-n</span> indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <span style="color: #6600CC;">très bon</span> is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <span style="color: #6600CC;">bon appetit it</span> suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <span style="color: #6600CC;">-ten</span> which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<span style="color: #6600CC;">Enten</span> meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td></tr>
</table>Akerbeltzhttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=1894&oldid=prevSusanharris 23:39, 4 dhen Lùnastal 20132013-08-04T23:39:13Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on your exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least, not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. This is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days. So, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask, in Gaelic, for planning permission for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at <span style="color: #008000;">Comhairle nan Eilean Siar</span>'s "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about an <span style="color: #008000;">taigh ùr agaibh</span> as [aN hɤj uːr agu].</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on your exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least, not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. This is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days. So, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask, in Gaelic, for planning permission for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at <span style="color: #008000;">Comhairle nan Eilean Siar</span>'s "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about an <span style="color: #008000;">taigh ùr agaibh</span> as [aN hɤj uːr agu].</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <span style="color: #000080;">-n</span> indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <span style="color: #<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">000080</del>;"><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">tres </del>bon</span> is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <span style="color: #<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">000080</del>;">bon appetit it</span> suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <span style="color: #<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">000080</del>;">-ten</span> which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<span style="color: #<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">000080</del>;">Enten</span> meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <span style="color: #000080;">-n</span> indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <span style="color: #<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">6600CC</ins>;"><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">très </ins>bon</span> is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <span style="color: #<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">6600CC</ins>;">bon appetit it</span> suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <span style="color: #<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">6600CC</ins>;">-ten</span> which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<span style="color: #<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">6600CC</ins>;">Enten</span> meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In Gaelic, the final <span style="color: #008000;">-n</span> and <span style="color: #008000;">-m</span> of the definite article assimilates the following consonant, in the above mentioned dialects, into something which is phonetically closer to a nasal consonant. Let's leave it at that and look at some examples:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In Gaelic, the final <span style="color: #008000;">-n</span> and <span style="color: #008000;">-m</span> of the definite article assimilates the following consonant, in the above mentioned dialects, into something which is phonetically closer to a nasal consonant. Let's leave it at that and look at some examples:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic, and Irish still has it (for example, Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners is <span style="color: #<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">000080</del>;">Dún na nGall</span>, "on the road" is <span style="color: #<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">000080</del>;">ar an mbóthar</span> etc. ). On the other hand, Gaelic first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on; admittedly, in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did. That's why it's a bit odd. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic, and Irish still has it (for example, Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners is <span style="color: #<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">6600CC</ins>;">Dún na nGall</span>, "on the road" is <span style="color: #<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">6600CC</ins>;">ar an mbóthar</span> etc. ). On the other hand, Gaelic first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on; admittedly, in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did. That's why it's a bit odd. </div></td></tr>
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</table>Susanharrishttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=1686&oldid=prevSusanharris 08:04, 22 dhen Iuchar 20132013-07-22T08:04:02Z<p></p>
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</tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l31" >Loidhne 31:</td>
<td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Loidhne 31:</td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you. Since not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you. Since not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic, and Irish still has it (Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">for example </del>is <span style="color: #000080;">Dún na nGall</span>, "on the road" is <span style="color: #000080;">ar an mbóthar</span> etc ). <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Gaelic on </del>the other hand first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on; admittedly, in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did. That's why it's a bit odd. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic, and Irish still has it (<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">for example, </ins>Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners is <span style="color: #000080;">Dún na nGall</span>, "on the road" is <span style="color: #000080;">ar an mbóthar</span> etc<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. </ins>). <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">On </ins>the other hand<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, Gaelic </ins>first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on; admittedly, in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did. That's why it's a bit odd. </div></td></tr>
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</table>Susanharrishttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=1685&oldid=prevSusanharris 08:00, 22 dhen Iuchar 20132013-07-22T08:00:48Z<p></p>
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<td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Loidhne 27:</td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Luckily, only words beginning with <span style="color: #008000;">b, p, g, c, d, t</span> are affected. Well ... that doesn't leave that many, but at least L N R are unaffected. One more thing - this is one of the few instances where <span style="color: #008000;">b g <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">d</del></span> are voiced in Gaelic (for an explanation on voicing [[Voiced vs Voiceless or Why does b sound like p but not really?|click here]]) because the strongly voiced quality of the <span style="color: #008000;">-n</span> preserves (or assimilates, it doesn't matter) the voicing of the following consonant.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Luckily, only words beginning with <span style="color: #008000;">b, p, g, c, d, t</span> are affected. Well ... that doesn't leave that many, but at least L N R are unaffected. One more thing - this is one of the few instances where <span style="color: #008000;">b <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">d </ins>g</span> are voiced in Gaelic (for an explanation on voicing [[Voiced vs Voiceless or Why does b sound like p but not really?|click here]]) because the strongly voiced quality of the <span style="color: #008000;">-n</span> preserves (or assimilates, it doesn't matter) the voicing of the following consonant.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">- since </del>not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. Since </ins>not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic and Irish still has it (Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners for example is <span style="color: #000080;">Dún na nGall</span>, "on the road" is <span style="color: #000080;">ar an mbóthar</span> etc ). Gaelic on the other hand first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(</del>admittedly in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">)</del>. That's why it's a bit odd. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </ins>and Irish still has it (Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners for example is <span style="color: #000080;">Dún na nGall</span>, "on the road" is <span style="color: #000080;">ar an mbóthar</span> etc ). Gaelic on the other hand first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">; </ins>admittedly<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </ins>in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did. That's why it's a bit odd. </div></td></tr>
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</table>Susanharrishttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=1684&oldid=prevSusanharris 07:46, 22 dhen Iuchar 20132013-07-22T07:46:52Z<p></p>
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</tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5" >Loidhne 5:</td>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <span style="color: #000080;">-n</span> indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <span style="color: #000080;">tres bon</span> is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <span style="color: #000080;">bon appetit it</span> suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <span style="color: #000080;">-ten</span> which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<span style="color: #000080;">Enten</span> meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <span style="color: #000080;">-n</span> indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <span style="color: #000080;">tres bon</span> is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <span style="color: #000080;">bon appetit it</span> suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <span style="color: #000080;">-ten</span> which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<span style="color: #000080;">Enten</span> meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In Gaelic the final <span style="color: #008000;">-n</span> and <span style="color: #008000;">-m</span> of the definite article assimilates the following consonant in the above mentioned dialects, into something which is phonetically closer to a nasal consonant. Let's leave it at that and look at some examples:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In Gaelic<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </ins>the final <span style="color: #008000;">-n</span> and <span style="color: #008000;">-m</span> of the definite article assimilates the following consonant<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </ins>in the above mentioned dialects, into something which is phonetically closer to a nasal consonant. Let's leave it at that and look at some examples:</div></td></tr>
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</table>Susanharrishttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=1683&oldid=prevSusanharris 07:42, 22 dhen Iuchar 20132013-07-22T07:42:56Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. But first of all, what are we on about this time?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. But first of all, what are we on about this time?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">you </del>exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">As this </del>is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask for planning permission <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">in Gaelic </del>for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at <span style="color: #008000;">Comhairle nan Eilean Siar</span>'s "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about an <span style="color: #008000;">taigh ùr agaibh</span> as [aN hɤj uːr agu].</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">your </ins>exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </ins>not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">This </ins>is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. So</ins>, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, in Gaelic, </ins>for planning permission for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at <span style="color: #008000;">Comhairle nan Eilean Siar</span>'s "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about an <span style="color: #008000;">taigh ùr agaibh</span> as [aN hɤj uːr agu].</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <span style="color: #000080;">-n</span> indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <span style="color: #000080;">tres bon</span> is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <span style="color: #000080;">bon appetit it</span> suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <span style="color: #000080;">-ten</span> which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<span style="color: #000080;">Enten</span> meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <span style="color: #000080;">-n</span> indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <span style="color: #000080;">tres bon</span> is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <span style="color: #000080;">bon appetit it</span> suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <span style="color: #000080;">-ten</span> which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<span style="color: #000080;">Enten</span> meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td></tr>
</table>Susanharrishttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=1341&oldid=prevThrissel: shaoilinn gur e seo an ceangal2012-12-07T22:38:43Z<p>shaoilinn gur e seo an ceangal</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Luckily, only words beginning with <span style="color: #008000;">b, p, g, c, d, t</span> are affected. Well ... that doesn't leave that many, but at least L N R are unaffected. One more thing - this is one of the few instances where <span style="color: #008000;">b g d</span> are voiced in Gaelic (for an explanation on voicing click here) because the strongly voiced quality of the <span style="color: #008000;">-n</span> preserves (or assimilates, it doesn't matter) the voicing of the following consonant.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Luckily, only words beginning with <span style="color: #008000;">b, p, g, c, d, t</span> are affected. Well ... that doesn't leave that many, but at least L N R are unaffected. One more thing - this is one of the few instances where <span style="color: #008000;">b g d</span> are voiced in Gaelic (for an explanation on voicing <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Voiced vs Voiceless or Why does b sound like p but not really?|</ins>click here<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]]</ins>) because the strongly voiced quality of the <span style="color: #008000;">-n</span> preserves (or assimilates, it doesn't matter) the voicing of the following consonant.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you - since not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you - since not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.</div></td></tr>
</table>Thrisselhttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=682&oldid=prevAkerbeltz 23:39, 4 dhen Fhaoilleach 20122012-01-04T23:39:48Z<p></p>
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<td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Mùthadh on 23:39, 4 dhen Fhaoilleach 2012</td>
</tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >Loidhne 1:</td>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. But first of all, what are we on about this time?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. But first of all, what are we on about this time?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on you exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. As this is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask for planning permission in Gaelic for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at Comhairle nan Eilean Siar's "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about an taigh ùr agaibh as <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">/</del>aN hɤj uːr agu<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">/</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on you exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. As this is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask for planning permission in Gaelic for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>Comhairle nan Eilean Siar<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></ins>'s "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about an <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>taigh ùr agaibh<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>as <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[</ins>aN hɤj uːr agu<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]</ins>.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where -n indicates nasalisation, but not always ... tres bon is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in bon appetit it suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like -ten which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (Enten meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #000080;"></ins>-n<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>indicates nasalisation, but not always ... <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #000080;"></ins>tres bon<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #000080;"></ins>bon appetit it<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #000080;"></ins>-ten<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #000080;"></ins>Enten<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In Gaelic the final -n and -m of the definite article assimilates the following consonant in the above mentioned dialects, into something which is phonetically closer to a nasal consonant. Let's leave it at that and look at some examples:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In Gaelic the final <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>-n<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>-m<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>of the definite article assimilates the following consonant in the above mentioned dialects, into something which is phonetically closer to a nasal consonant. Let's leave it at that and look at some examples:</div></td></tr>
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<td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Loidhne 13:</td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| am bàta || [əm baːhdə] || [ə maːhdə]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>am bàta<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>|| [əm baːhdə] || [ə maːhdə]</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| am pìos || [əm biːs] or [əm bʰiːs] || [əm hiːs]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>am pìos<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>|| [əm biːs] or [əm bʰiːs] || [əm hiːs]</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| an gille || [əŋ gʲiLʲe] || [ə ŋiLʲe]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>an gille<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>|| [əŋ gʲiLʲe] || [ə ŋiLʲe]</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| an càr || [əŋ gaːr] or [aŋ gʰaːr] || [əŋ haːr]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>an càr<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>|| [əŋ gaːr] or [aŋ gʰaːr] || [əŋ haːr]</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|-</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| an duine || [əN dɯNʲə] || [ə NɯNʲə]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>an duine<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>|| [əN dɯNʲə] || [ə NɯNʲə]</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| an taigh || [əN dɤj] or [əN dʰɤj] || [əN hɤj]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>| <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>an taigh<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>|| [əN dɤj] or [əN dʰɤj] || [əN hɤj]</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Luckily, only words beginning with b, p, g, c, d, t are affected. Well ... that doesn't leave that many, but at least L N R are unaffected. One more thing - this is one of the few instances where <b<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">> <</del>g<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">> </del><<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">d</del>> are voiced in Gaelic (for an explanation on voicing click here) because the strongly voiced quality of the -n preserves (or assimilates, it doesn't matter) the voicing of the following consonant.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Luckily, only words beginning with <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>b, p, g, c, d, t<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>are affected. Well ... that doesn't leave that many, but at least L N R are unaffected. One more thing - this is one of the few instances where <<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">span style="color: #008000;"></ins>b g <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">d</ins><<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">/span</ins>> are voiced in Gaelic (for an explanation on voicing click here) because the strongly voiced quality of the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #008000;"></ins>-n<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>preserves (or assimilates, it doesn't matter) the voicing of the following consonant.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you - since not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you - since not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic and Irish still has it (Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners for example is Dún na nGall, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><</del>on the road> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is </del>ar an mbóthar etc ). <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>Gaelic on the other hand first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on (admittedly in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did). That's why it's a bit odd. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic and Irish still has it (Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners for example is <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><span style="color: #000080;"></ins>Dún na nGall<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"</ins>on the road<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">" is <span style="color: #000080;"</ins>>ar an mbóthar<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span> </ins>etc ). Gaelic on the other hand first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on (admittedly in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did). That's why it's a bit odd. </div></td></tr>
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</table>Akerbeltzhttp://www.akerbeltz.org/index.php?title=Nasalisation_2_or_Why_am_I_married_to_%C9%99_N%C9%AFN%CA%B2%C9%99_agam%3F&diff=681&oldid=prevAkerbeltz: Created page with "Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. B..."2012-01-04T23:31:27Z<p>Created page with "Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. B..."</p>
<p><b>Duilleag ùr</b></p><div>Good question indeed - but that is really a personal issue between you and your partner. Anyway, this is particularly strange when it comes to Gaelic, as you will see later on. But first of all, what are we on about this time?<br />
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Depending on you exposure to spoken Gaelic, you will have come across speakers who do something apparently strange to nouns after the definite article - when according to the grammar books nothing strange is supposed to go on. At least not lenition anyway. It sounds as if they mutate the first sound of the following noun or sometimes even drop it completely. As this is most prominent in the dialects of Lewis and certain parts of the Isle of Skye, where a lot of speakers hail from these days, you should at least be familiar with this phenomenon so it won't baffle you when you ask for planning permission in Gaelic for your new luxury detached home with a heated outdoor swimming pool on the Isle of Harris (swipe at Comhairle nan Eilean Siar's "Bilingual Policy" intended) and the planning officer talks about an taigh ùr agaibh as /aN hɤj uːr agu/.<br />
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So what is going on here? Without going into the details (for a change) just accept that nasals often do strange things to sounds surrounding them, not only in Gaelic. Compare French where -n indicates nasalisation, but not always ... tres bon is [tʁe bõ] with a nasalised vowel, but in bon appetit it suddenly re-appears [bon apeti]. Or German, where something bizarre happens with certain syllables like -ten which are produced as a "stop with nasal release", transcribed as [entn] (Enten meaning 'ducks'). Bit like snorting an ''n'' sound through your nose. Anyway, I digress.<br />
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In Gaelic the final -n and -m of the definite article assimilates the following consonant in the above mentioned dialects, into something which is phonetically closer to a nasal consonant. Let's leave it at that and look at some examples:<br />
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{| style="width: 70%;" border="0" align="center"<br />
! Orthography<br />
! Pronunciation (a lot of places)<br />
! Pronunciation (Lewis, parts of Skye)<br />
|-<br />
| am bàta || [əm baːhdə] || [ə maːhdə]<br />
|-<br />
| am pìos || [əm biːs] or [əm bʰiːs] || [əm hiːs]<br />
|-<br />
| an gille || [əŋ gʲiLʲe] || [ə ŋiLʲe]<br />
|-<br />
| an càr || [əŋ gaːr] or [aŋ gʰaːr] || [əŋ haːr]<br />
|-<br />
| an duine || [əN dɯNʲə] || [ə NɯNʲə]<br />
|-<br />
| an taigh || [əN dɤj] or [əN dʰɤj] || [əN hɤj]<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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Luckily, only words beginning with b, p, g, c, d, t are affected. Well ... that doesn't leave that many, but at least L N R are unaffected. One more thing - this is one of the few instances where <b> <g> <d> are voiced in Gaelic (for an explanation on voicing click here) because the strongly voiced quality of the -n preserves (or assimilates, it doesn't matter) the voicing of the following consonant.<br />
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Whether you actually want to adopt this in your own speech is up to you - since not all dialects do it, you won't sound odd if you do not.<br />
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So why is this a bit odd in Gaelic? Well, just from a historical point of view really. Old Irish had this as a regular sound change, much like lenition in modern Gaelic and Irish still has it (Donegal, the fortress of the foreigners for example is Dún na nGall, <on the road> is ar an mbóthar etc ). Gaelic on the other hand first lost this process - only to re-introduce it later on (admittedly in a somewhat different fashion, but it's still very similar to what Old Irish did). That's why it's a bit odd. <br />
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