An diofar eadar na mùthaidhean a rinneadh air "Hoigh, an dithis agaibh! or Personal numerals"

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Loidhne 10: Loidhne 10:
 
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| 2 || dithis fhear móra<br/>dithis bhalach móra || dithis bhan móra<br/>dithis chloinne móire || dithis chaileagan móra
 
| 2 || dithis fhear móra<br/>dithis bhalach móra || dithis bhan móra<br/>dithis chloinne móire || dithis chaileagan móra
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| 3 || triùir fhear móra<br/>triùir bhalach móra || triùir bhan móra<br/>triùir chaileagan móra || triùir chloinne móire
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| 4 || ceathrar fhear móra<br/>ceathrar bhalach móra || ceathrar bhan móra<br/>ceathrar chaileagan móra || ceathrar cloinne móire
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| 5 || cóignear fhear móra<br/>cóignear bhalach móra || cóignear bhan móra<br/>cóignear chaileagan móra || cóignear cloinne móire
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| 6 || sianar fhear móra<br/>sianar bhalach móra || sianar bhan móra<br/>sianar chaileagan móra || sianar cloinne móire
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| 7 || seachdnar fhear móra<br/>seachdnar bhalach móra || seachdnar bhan móra<br/>seachdnar chaileagan móra || seachdnar cloinne móire
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| 8 || ochdnar fhear móra<br/>ochdnar bhalach móra || ochdnar bhan móra<br/>ochdnar chaileagan móra || ochdnar cloinne móire
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| 9 || naonar fhear móra<br/>naonar bhalach móra || naonar bhan móra<br/>naonar chaileagan móra || naonar cloinne móire
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| 10 || deichnear fhear móra<br/>deichnear bhalach móra || deichnear bhan móra<br/>deichnear chaileagan móra || deichnear cloinne móire
 
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3 triùir fhear móra
 
triùir bhan móra triùir bhalach móra
 
triùir chaileagan móra
 
triùir chloinne móire
 
4 ceathrar fhear móra
 
ceathrar bhan móra ceathrar bhalach móra
 
ceathrar chaileagan móra
 
ceathrar cloinne móire
 
5 cóignear fhear móra
 
cóignear bhan móra cóignear bhalach móra
 
cóignear chaileagan móra
 
cóignear cloinne móire
 
6 sianar fhear móra
 
sianar bhan móra sianar bhalach móra
 
sianar chaileagan móra
 
sianar cloinne móire
 
7 seachdnar fhear móra
 
seachdnar bhan móra seachdnar bhalach móra
 
seachdnar chaileagan móra
 
seachdnar cloinne móire
 
8 ochdnar fhear móra
 
ochdnar bhan móra ochdnar bhalach móra
 
ochdnar chaileagan móra
 
ochdnar cloinne móire
 
9 naonar fhear móra
 
naonar bhan móra naonar bhalach móra
 
naonar chaileagan móra
 
naonar cloinne móire
 
10 deichnear fhear móra
 
deichnear bhan móra deichnear bhalach móra
 
deichnear chaileagan móra
 
deichnear cloinne móire
 
  
 
#Because they are (grammatically speaking) nouns, the numbers for counting people are followed by the genitive plural.  Just as with other nouns, the plural genitive gets lenited when indefinite.  Thus we have dithis fhear or dithis ghillean (lit. two of men/boys) but na dithis fear and na dithis gillean 'the two men/boys'.  If it helps, you can think of these numbers as a "twosome, threesome, foursome of children, men, girls, grannies ...", it explains the genitive anyway.
 
#Because they are (grammatically speaking) nouns, the numbers for counting people are followed by the genitive plural.  Just as with other nouns, the plural genitive gets lenited when indefinite.  Thus we have dithis fhear or dithis ghillean (lit. two of men/boys) but na dithis fear and na dithis gillean 'the two men/boys'.  If it helps, you can think of these numbers as a "twosome, threesome, foursome of children, men, girls, grannies ...", it explains the genitive anyway.

Mùthadh on 02:03, 11 dhen Ògmhios 2012

Why does Gaelic have special numbers for counting people? It just does. Some languages do, some don't - some even have special counting words for men and women - so don't complain, there's only ten to be learnt in Gaelic. Here's the numbers first, the dreaded footnotes are at the bottom:

counting people
(irregular nouns)
counting people
(regular nouns)
plural nouns
1 aonar mór
aonar mór
aonar mór
aonar mór
aonar mór
2 dithis fhear móra
dithis bhalach móra
dithis bhan móra
dithis chloinne móire
dithis chaileagan móra
3 triùir fhear móra
triùir bhalach móra
triùir bhan móra
triùir chaileagan móra
triùir chloinne móire
4 ceathrar fhear móra
ceathrar bhalach móra
ceathrar bhan móra
ceathrar chaileagan móra
ceathrar cloinne móire
5 cóignear fhear móra
cóignear bhalach móra
cóignear bhan móra
cóignear chaileagan móra
cóignear cloinne móire
6 sianar fhear móra
sianar bhalach móra
sianar bhan móra
sianar chaileagan móra
sianar cloinne móire
7 seachdnar fhear móra
seachdnar bhalach móra
seachdnar bhan móra
seachdnar chaileagan móra
seachdnar cloinne móire
8 ochdnar fhear móra
ochdnar bhalach móra
ochdnar bhan móra
ochdnar chaileagan móra
ochdnar cloinne móire
9 naonar fhear móra
naonar bhalach móra
naonar bhan móra
naonar chaileagan móra
naonar cloinne móire
10 deichnear fhear móra
deichnear bhalach móra
deichnear bhan móra
deichnear chaileagan móra
deichnear cloinne móire
  1. Because they are (grammatically speaking) nouns, the numbers for counting people are followed by the genitive plural. Just as with other nouns, the plural genitive gets lenited when indefinite. Thus we have dithis fhear or dithis ghillean (lit. two of men/boys) but na dithis fear and na dithis gillean 'the two men/boys'. If it helps, you can think of these numbers as a "twosome, threesome, foursome of children, men, girls, grannies ...", it explains the genitive anyway.
  2. Again, as with many rules in any languages, you will hear people say things differently - many Gaels say cóignear nighean instead of nigheannan ...
  3. So just remember to use these as nouns - things like chunnaic mi dithis or an do rinn na triùir agaibh an obair? are perfectly ok.
  4. Also, you only use them up to ten, after that, you count people like things, that's why you won't see that column anymore further down.
  5. Gender. Yes, gender. Seeing these are all nouns, they need a gender. They are all masculine, except for dithis and triùir, so if you follow these with an adjective, it gets lenited e.g. dithis mhóra, triùir bheaga but cóignear bochda.
  6. As a result, remember to prefix t- before ochdnar, e.g. in thàinig an t-ochndnar aca fadalach 'the eight of them came late'.
  7. Instead of naonar, you also hear naoinear and instead of dithis dithist.
  8. Even though 2 takes the dual with the ordinal/cardinal numbers, dithis is followed by the plural. Fun, eh? Remind me to tell you about counting in the Chinese languages one day.
  9. Plural nouns take the only genitive the have, so clann becomes cloinne and it lenites after dithis and triùir. We haven't been able to think of a masculine plural nouns denoting living beings - do let us know if you can think of one.

The last thing to remember is that because they are nouns, these can stand on their own, e.g. thàinig an dithis a-steach 'the two (of them) came in' or chaidh triùir a-mach 'three (of them) went out'.



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